State Sen. Timothy Grendell Is Putting The Great Lakes At Risk
Submitted by Nick D on Thu, 05/08/2008 - 4:01pm.
The conservative editorial board of the Columbus Dispatch has called for the Ohio Senate to end its "obstruction" of the Great Lakes Water Compact.
Gov. Strickland is firmly behind it.
A bipartisan consensus of the Ohio House passed it 90-3 in February of this year.
And yet a pompous ass by the name of Timothy Grendell is willing to put the entire Great Lakes System at risk because he thinks the language in the bill might imperil the right of property owners to wells and streams on their properties.
Never mind that State Rep. Matthew Dolan (R-98th) who represents a portion of Grendell's 18th Senate District, called his concerns "overreaching."
Never mind that there is a palpable urgency to pass the Great Lakes Water Compact before the 2010 reapportionment, when the Great Lakes states are likely to lose about 10 seats in Congress, and about 10 electoral votes to boot, because it must be ratified by Congress.
Never mind that those congressional seats and electoral votes are likely to end up in the desert Southwest, where unsustainable urban growth IN THE MIDDLE OF A DESERT!!!! will soon lead to crippling water shortages, which will lead politicans from those areas to call for diversion of Great Lakes water.
Never mind all that. Tim Grendell has convinced Ohio Senate President Bill Harris not to even hold a vote on a treaty that the Ohio House passed 90-3.
Which leads me to ask a question: Can't we get rid of this guy? He is clearly too conservative for his 18th Senate District, which has one Democrat representative (used to have two until former State Rep. Tim Cassell pled guilty to DUI) , and a moderate Republican in Dolan. Why don't we have a candidate to go after this joker?
Well, a woman named Amy Diamond won the primary. Where is she? If she's not running, is the Ohio Senate caucus recruiting a replacement?
Tim Grendell is putting the entire Great Lakes system in peril. The Plain Dealer called him "the lunatic fringe" in a February 19th editorial. And yet Ray Miller can't be bothered to do his job: find someone to throw this guy out of office.
If he won't do his job, then maybe we in the Ohio blogosphere should do it for him.
A second opinion
Submitted by erinhughes on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 12:30am.
I think the poster has not taken sufficient time to research the other side of this issue. Governor Strickland being behind the bill should automatically send up a red flag, I mean he is the champion of the Patriot Act and REAL ID. The UN being the main force behind the whole thing should send up another red flag. Grendell's argument as you stated "he thinks the language in the bill might imperil the right of property owners to wells and streams on their properties." Well yes indeed it could and IT DOES state that clearly. Why is this not a concern for the poster? Did the poster also believe the government would not take advantage of the Patriot Act or Eminent Domain? I urge everyone to look at the issue in a broader light. Ohio is responsible enough to make sovereign resolutions as is any state. This resolution is global, and is with almost any large resolution your best interests are most never taken into , why would it be any different here?
A Paul-tard!
Submitted by Nick D on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 12:37am.
"erinhughes" is a Ron Paul supporter apparently. And like Paul, he has missed a few facts:
1. Grendell's analysis of the bill's effects has been discredited by legal analysts all over the state, including fellow Republicans in the Assembly like Matt Dolan.
2. The UN has nothing to do with this agreement. It is strictly between the US and Canada.
3. I don't believe the government has taken advantage of eminent domain. When the government tried to overreach on that issue it got smacked down by the voters and for good reason. The Patriot Act was a bad idea from the start, it was meant to be abused. REAL ID was a giant unfunded mandate. Instead I think its finally time for us to have National ID cards, this would cut down on ID theft and illegal immigration.
4. Nothing global about the Compact. It's strictly between the U.S. and Canada, and more specifically, the 8 great lakes states in the US and the 2 provinces in Canada.
A REAL ID TARD!
Submitted by erinhughes on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 1:02am.
I mean come on, do you take people seriously that resort to that kind of name calling? No? Well I don't either. To everyone besides Nick D.: Allowing the government to lock up our water supply could be very hazardous. I urge you to at least look int it yourselves. Note that I not some kind of earth hater..backpacking is my passion, I love animals and nature and think there shoulds be an animal bill of rights, I recycle and compost everything and use reusable grocery shopping bags. I do my part.
YOU BLASTARD!
Submitted by mvirenicus on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 1:34am.
do you take people seriously that resort to that kind of name calling?
I dunno, I've become kinda fond of name calling myself lately. It wakes people up, and if anybody needs waking up it's the average American. In regard to the issue, I haven't studied it and don't feel motivated to do so. Under such circumstances my rule of thumb is that whatever position a Republican takes, I take the opposite.
mvirenicus - YOU REPUBLICAN!
Submitted by erinhughes on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 2:39am.
:p
But Seriously? Just because someone calls themselves a republican you will take the opposite stance? That is about as typical american mindset as you can get...its like single issue voting. No one is a political party, everyone has their own ideas about things.
I realize you were probably just being snide in saying that.
Classical conservatives were anti-war...classical liberals were closer to anarchists. Talk about confusing.
To be a republican now it seems like you have to associate yourself with Bush who is not a republican, he stands for himself only - like Nixon he is bigger than life, he is a tyrant and a liar. And for some reason the media keeps telling everyone McCainiac has a chance under the R banner.
I'm a Neo-Monarchist
Submitted by mvirenicus on Fri, 05/09/2008 - 7:40am.
everyone has their own ideas about things
Which is why I don't waste my time in dialog with Republicans and spend most of my time throwing rocks at Democrats. Christian? I throw boulders.
Grendell's ridiculous